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#101 matt6150

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:10 AM

Well dang made a starter last night and when I woke up this morning there was no action and the stirbar had kicked off. This is my biggest starter to date at 4L for a big IPA. I just don't think my magnets are strong enough.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 06:18 AM

Well dang made a starter last night and when I woke up this morning there was no action and the stirbar had kicked off. This is my biggest starter to date at 4L for a big IPA. I just don't think my magnets are strong enough.

 

Do the lowest spin you can do. You don't need a whirlpool, just keep the yeast in suspension. The stirbar generally stays in place with a low spin.



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Posted 06 March 2015 - 06:50 AM

So my starter is winding down and I plan to brew on Saturday so sometime today I'll probably put it into the fridge. So I have my lager primary fridge which is between 47-49° and I also have my on-deck fridge which I recently lowered the temp on to make sure I had good lagering temps. I put a glass of water in there last night and went to take the temp of it this morning and there was a thin layer of ice on top of that water which surprised me. The Thermapen read that at 32.1° which is GREAT for lagering but I probably shouldn't put this starter in there. I also have a fridge in the bar which is probably mid-30s and my main kitchen fridge is in that range too. Where to put it? I'm thinking lager primary fridge... mid to high 40s.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:13 AM

Do the lowest spin you can do. You don't need a whirlpool, just keep the yeast in suspension. The stirbar generally stays in place with a low spin.

Generally if the magnets are strong enough. I never have a problem with staters in a 2L flask but once I get the 5L out I have problems. Too slow and it just won't keep the yeast in suspension enough and settles, then kicks off the stir bar. I got some hard drive magnets and am going to build a new one soon for larger starters.

So my starter is winding down and I plan to brew on Saturday so sometime today I'll probably put it into the fridge. So I have my lager primary fridge which is between 47-49° and I also have my on-deck fridge which I recently lowered the temp on to make sure I had good lagering temps. I put a glass of water in there last night and went to take the temp of it this morning and there was a thin layer of ice on top of that water which surprised me. The Thermapen read that at 32.1° which is GREAT for lagering but I probably shouldn't put this starter in there. I also have a fridge in the bar which is probably mid-30s and my main kitchen fridge is in that range too. Where to put it? I'm thinking lager primary fridge... mid to high 40s.

I stick mine in my main kitchen fridge.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:13 AM

Ken, you could put your starter into your on-deck fridge with little worry.

 

The colder temp will help the yeast floc better and quicker, and if any of the liquid froze at the top, the yeast likely will be at the bottom and unharmed.

 

And when you decant the starter liquid, less yeast will be dumped and more will make it into the wort.



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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:27 AM

Ken, you could put your starter into your on-deck fridge with little worry. The colder temp will help the yeast floc better and quicker, and if any of the liquid froze at the top, the yeast likely will be at the bottom and unharmed. And when you decant the starter liquid, less yeast will be dumped and more will make it into the wort.

Roger that. Into the cold it goes!


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