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[Poptop]

For my 50th batch of BDSA, I made bombs.  Or at the very least the potential for X amount of bombs out of 48 bottles.  I chilled and tried a bottle of this awesome batch on Friday.  That's after I opened it and 75% of it fizzed onto the kitchen counter.  I know I didn't over sugar the batch for bottling (4 ounces total sugar in 5gals).  Either way this 10.2% nectar of the Gods surprised my wife when she opened the garage fridge yesterday and found glass and beer all over the place (including the leftover ham from Easter)......  So yesterday, well armored, I gently got all the bottles and a 20 pound bag of ice into a large cooler.  My aim is to keep them chilled for a few days and then ever so gently open each and funnel into a keg.  It would kill me to dump.  This BDSA came out fantastic.  So, after you's guys get done shaking your head and laughing, can you tell me it'll be okay to open them and funnel into a corny?  Do I have to be concerned with anything?  Sanitation will be paramount of course.  Oxidation?  Thoughts?  Musings?  Chides?  Guffaws?

 

Thanks, Mike 

[3rd party JKor]

This is a terrible recipe!!! 

 

 

Oxidation will be the big concern.  I don't know if you can do this without getting significant oxidation.  Opening them in a CO2 environment is likely necessary to keep it from becoming a cardboard bomb.

 

Head retention is another.  I've heard that the head forming proteins only 'work' once.  Hopefully you can get them cold enough and open them slow enough to keep them from foaming.

 

If you have  CPBF maybe you can 'reverse fill' them?  Use CO2 pressure to force the beer back into a keg that has been purged with CO2 and pressurized.

[positiveContact]

head forming proteins only work once?  that's a new one for me.

 

but otherwise - this seems like a not great idea.  oxidation would be huge.

Edited by Evil_Morty, 07 April 2015 - 09:13 AM.

[Poptop]

This is NOT what I want to HEAR [grimaces profusely]

[positiveContact]

I wonder if you opened them and then recapped them if that would do the trick?  it might at least change them from bottle bombs to just over carbonated beer.  also - if you do this make sure you keep them super cold!

[Poptop]

Not a bad idea but what a PITA.

[positiveContact]

Not a bad idea but what a PITA.

 

seems easier than carefully pouring them into a keg.  how many bottles are we talking?  maybe you could just keep them super cold and get the PPE out every time you open one up

[denny]

head forming proteins only work once?  that's a new one for me.

 

but otherwise - this seems like a not great idea.  oxidation would be huge.

 

Believe it talks about it here....https://byo.com/stor...foam-techniques

This is NOT what I want to HEAR [grimaces profusely]

 

Have you tasted one?  Is it infected?  If you didn't over prime, then that and incomplete fermentation would be about the only causes of bottle bombs.  It might not be worth it to try to save it if it's infected.

[Poptop]

I tasted one and it was delicious. What if I crack the caps and let them decarb for a day and then gently keg from the bottom of the corny up???

[neddles]

If you can get them cold enough that you can crack them open without foam over then I'd just recap them after releasing some pressure. I don't see a scenario where getting them into the keg without foaming or oxidation is possible. But who knows maybe someone will come up with something. Maybe start by finding out the freezing point of something that's 10.2% abv. and get it near that temperature before you open them?

[Poptop]

Well, if super chilling and cracking seems to be the consensus, then I just may take this route.

[SchwanzBrewer]

Next time get champagne bottles!

[3rd party JKor]

The only problem with the recapping option is that if there is something in there still fermenting this will just happen again after they are degassed and recapped.

[positiveContact]

The only problem with the recapping option is that if there is something in there still fermenting this will just happen again after they are degassed and recapped.

 

keeping them cold won't be enough to stop any fermenting at this point?

[denny]

keeping them cold won't be enough to stop any fermenting at this point?

 

It will slow, but not stop, fermentation.

[Poptop]

Maybe you all should come over and have a bottle quickly yet carefully

[positiveContact]

Maybe you all should come over and have a bottle quickly yet carefully

 

sounds like you should throw a party  

[Poptop]

Yes. Yes I should.

[3rd party JKor]

I think if you degas them, then transfer gently to a keg under CO2 you might be able to salvage them.  It's definitely a crappy situation.

 

 

Whatever you end up doing...keep it cold, drink it fast!

Edited by JKor, 07 April 2015 - 02:34 PM.