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[Poptop]

Hi Fellas, I'm planning this in a couple weeks and thought I'd get some input. My goal is a red IIPA by design and I'm hoping for not only the color but a nice rich malty double. When going for that deep color I follow Ken's approach and use the 50/50 combo of 120 and B just like in his Home Run. I also added some Carared since in the past it's proved to enhance a bright 'reddish' color. I want a nice punch of bitter but am experimenting with Simcoe since I've never used it hence having a bunch in the back load. DH'ing is a definite thought but nothing on paper yet. Thoughts? Recipe: No. 55 Red Mosquito TYPE: All Grain Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Boil Size: 7.50 gal Post Boil Volume: 5.50 gal Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal Estimated OG: 1.072 SG Estimated Color: 16.4 SRM Estimated IBU: 70.4 IBUs Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 % Boil Time: 60 Minutes Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name Type # %/IBU 11 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 71.5 % 2 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 13.0 % 1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 6.5 % 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.3 % 7.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2.9 % 7.0 oz Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 2.9 % 1.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 24.7 IBUs 0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5.5 IBUs 0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7.8 IBUs 0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8.5 IBUs 1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 6.1 IBUs 1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8.6 IBUs 1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9.3 IBUs 1.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 0.0 IBUs 1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Steep Hop 0.0 IBUs 1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Steep Hop 0.0 IBUs 2.0 L starter Vermont Ale (Yeast Bay #WLP4007) Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge 150 F

[positiveContact]

I might consider using some sugar to dry the beer out but it looks great either way.

[HVB]

Thinking out loud by do you think changing the Vienna to Munich may help with the red color? 

[positiveContact]

Thinking out loud by do you think changing the Vienna to Munich may help with the red color? 

 

or even more red still - some red X.

[HVB]

or even more red still - some red X.

I was thinking that too. 

[Poptop]

Evil, oddly enough my first run had a pound of Turbinado. Perhaps I should had it back. drezz, the Vienna is by choice since I have it. Originally I had Munich Red-X for the win however I am not due to place another order at Farmhouse currently.... Any comment on the hop schedule? Now I'm thinking Red-X in place of Vienna, dammitthehell fellas

[positiveContact]

even half a pound of sugar could make a difference.

[HVB]

Evil, oddly enough my first run had a pound of Turbinado. Perhaps I should had it back. drezz, the Vienna is by choice since I have it. Originally I had Munich Red-X for the win however I am not due to place another order at Farmhouse currently.... Any comment on the hop schedule? Now I'm thinking Red-X in place of Vienna, dammitthehell fellas

 

 

You asked - ditch the 10 minute addition and add some dry hops.

 

Go over to the picture thread on teh beer side and you can see my red-x wheat.  I think the color is pretty nice.

[Poptop]

You asked - ditch the 10 minute addition and add some dry hops.  

Do you think I'd lose the solid bitter punch?

link to red-x wheat please?

[positiveContact]

You asked - ditch the 10 minute addition and add some dry hops.

 

agreed.  even if you leave the 10 min hops still dry hop the bejesus out of this thing!

[HVB]

link to red-x wheat please?

Wheat picture https://www.brews-br...pint/?p=2023136

 

If you want a solid bitter punch I would up the 60 minute hop to about 40-50IBU and then do the 5/steep and add a DH. 

agreed.  even if you leave the 10 min hops still dry hop the bejesus out of this thing!

[Poptop]

Great advice fellas.  Also I can't wait to try the Vermont strain.  I intend on making a huge starter and pouring off enough fresh to save for another batch.

[Poptop]

Please offer a DH dose Gents

[positiveContact]

Please offer a DH dose Gents

 

I'd say 5 oz would do the job.

 

maybe 2 citra and 3 simcoe.

 

this is if you wanted to do it in one shot I guess.

[HVB]

I'd say 5 oz would do the job.

 

maybe 2 citra and 3 simcoe.

 

this is if you wanted to do it in one shot I guess.

If it was me I would go:

1 - citra

2 - amarillo

2- Simcoe

 

 

Great advice fellas.  Also I can't wait to try the Vermont strain.  I intend on making a huge starter and pouring off enough fresh to save for another batch.

I have a starter of it going now.  Well, hoping it is going.  The tube was old and I am trying to build it up.  Going to step it up tonight.  I saw no activity in the flask but I can tell it did something

[positiveContact]

If it was me I would go:

1 - citra

2 - amarillo

2- Simcoe

 

even better!

[neddles]

I like where this is going. One thing to think about... Red color...obviously a goal in the recipe, is going to be tough to get with a yeast infamous for hanging around in suspension forever. You could cold age it for a good long while (wouldnt be my preference) or clarify it. Use biofine and absolutely not gelatin.

[HVB]

I like where this is going. One thing to think about... Red color...obviously a goal in the recipe, is going to be tough to get with a yeast infamous for hanging around in suspension forever. You could cold age it for a good long while (wouldnt be my preference) or clarify it. Use biofine and absolutely not gelatin.

That is a good point

[Poptop]

I did not know the inability to drop out.  Maybe I should rethink my yeast.  Obviously I want clear as a bell.

Heady is cloudy

[HVB]

I did not know the inability to drop out.  Maybe I should rethink my yeast.  Obviously I want clear as a bell.

Heady is cloudy

It is a terrible flocculating yeast.  This weekend, as long as those starters are ready, I am going to do a split batch of 1318 and VT ale yeast in an APA.  Jury is still out as to if I bio-fine or not.