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[darkmagneto]

I'm going to try and make a "mexican chocolate" stout and would like to use an Imperial Stout as my base.  Going in the direction of Abraxas (Cinnamon, Chocolate, Ancho Chille's, etc).  Anyone have any good Imperial Stout recipes they like?  5 or 5.5 gallon.

 

Thanks!

Mark

[Big Nake]

Were we talking about this style when we got together last time?  I seem to remember you being on the road someplace (Texas?) and you mentioned a great beer with the spices, etc.  I'd be interested to see the recipe but am clearly no help.

[MyaCullen]

you could easily take he Quiet Storm recipe and just up the base malt until you hit Impy gravity, I know many folks have done just that

[darkmagneto]

Were we talking about this style when we got together last time?  I seem to remember you being on the road someplace (Texas?) and you mentioned a great beer with the spices, etc.  I'd be interested to see the recipe but am clearly no help.

 

Yep!  In Texas I get a bunch of the Prairie beers.  Bible Belt and Bomb are two that I frequently drink while down there.  FANTASTIC stuff!  Now just want to clone them

[MyaCullen]

I have this one planned for a couple of weeks from now

 

Obsidian Empire Stout

 

A ProMash Recipe Report

 

Recipe Specifics

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Batch Size (Gal):         5.00    Wort Size (Gal):    6.00

Total Grain (Lbs):       17.00

Anticipated OG:          1.095    Plato:             22.76

Anticipated SRM:          47.2

Anticipated IBU:          60.3

Brewhouse Efficiency:       75 %

Wort Boil Time:             75    Minutes

 

 

Grain/Extract/Sugar

 

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 70.6    12.00 lbs. Pale Malt (2-row)             America        1.037      2

 11.8     2.00 lbs. Pearl Barley                  America        1.034      2

  5.9     1.00 lbs. Cane Sugar                    Generic        1.046      0

  5.9     1.00 lbs. Roasted Barley                Great Britain  1.029    575

  2.9     0.50 lbs. CaraMunich 80                 France         1.034     80

  1.5     0.25 lbs. Chocolate Malt                Great Britain  1.034    475

  1.5     0.25 lbs. Melanoidin Malt               Germany        1.033     35

 

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

 

 

Hops

 

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  2.00 oz.    Legacy 2012                       Pellet   8.25  50.8  60 min.

  1.00 oz.    Goldings - US 2011                Pellet   4.00   9.5  30 min.

  1.00 oz.    Goldings - US 2011                Pellet   4.00   0.0  0 min.

 

 

Extras

 

  Amount      Name                           Type      Time

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

  0.50 Unit(s)Whirlfloc                      Fining    10 Min.(boil) 

 

 

Yeast

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Mangrove Jack M07 British Ale

[neddles]

 

I have this one planned for a couple of weeks from now

 

Obsidian Empire Stout

 

A ProMash Recipe Report

 

Recipe Specifics

----------------

 

Batch Size (Gal):         5.00    Wort Size (Gal):    6.00

Total Grain (Lbs):       17.00

Anticipated OG:          1.095    Plato:             22.76

Anticipated SRM:          47.2

Anticipated IBU:          60.3

Brewhouse Efficiency:       75 %

Wort Boil Time:             75    Minutes

 

 

Grain/Extract/Sugar

 

   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 70.6    12.00 lbs. Pale Malt (2-row)             America        1.037      2

 11.8     2.00 lbs. Pearl Barley                  America        1.034      2

  5.9     1.00 lbs. Cane Sugar                    Generic        1.046      0

  5.9     1.00 lbs. Roasted Barley                Great Britain  1.029    575

  2.9     0.50 lbs. CaraMunich 80                 France         1.034     80

  1.5     0.25 lbs. Chocolate Malt                Great Britain  1.034    475

  1.5     0.25 lbs. Melanoidin Malt               Germany        1.033     35

 

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

 

 

Hops

 

   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

  2.00 oz.    Legacy 2012                       Pellet   8.25  50.8  60 min.

  1.00 oz.    Goldings - US 2011                Pellet   4.00   9.5  30 min.

  1.00 oz.    Goldings - US 2011                Pellet   4.00   0.0  0 min.

 

 

Extras

 

  Amount      Name                           Type      Time

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

  0.50 Unit(s)Whirlfloc                      Fining    10 Min.(boil) 

 

 

Yeast

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Mangrove Jack M07 British Ale

 

Why pearl barley and how do you handle it?

[MyaCullen]

Why pearl barley and how do you handle it?

flaked would be better, I have pearled, I just crack it and cook it, cool to mash temp and add to mash tun, then proceed as normal, youcould easily use flaked oats here 

[Big Nake]

I feel like the information coming out of breweries is getting harder to come by (they don't want to share as much as they used to although that's not always true) but I would still suggest contacting the brewery if you haven't already.  The cinnamon, chocolate and ancho chili sounds very interesting and I could see making something like this although I don't think it would be an imperial stout. 

[neddles]

I feel like the information coming out of breweries is getting harder to come by (they don't want to share as much as they used to although that's not always true) but I would still suggest contacting the brewery if you haven't already.  The cinnamon, chocolate and ancho chili sounds very interesting and I could see making something like this although I don't think it would be an imperial stout. 

Say again?

[Big Nake]

Say again?

A beer with those spices in it.

[neddles]

A beer with those spices in it.

Gotcha. I took that to mean a stout not imperialized. What would you put those spices in?

[HVB]

I have been toying around with one of these too.  I plan to age the beer (5g batch) on :

 

1 – Stick Cinnamon

1 or 2 – vanilla beans

1oz – Ancho peppers

½ oz – Pasillia peppers

½ oz– Guagilla Peppers

4 oz – Peruvian Cocoa Nibs

 

I keep messing with the grain bill as I know it is too complicated at the moment.  I want to nail it down and get it brewed in July for the winter.  My current thoughts for the grain bill are:

 

80% Marris Otter

4% Roasted Barley

4% Flaked Barley

4% Extra Dark Crystal

4% Chocolate

2% Crystal 40

[Big Nake]

Gotcha. I took that to mean a stout not imperialized. What would you put those spices in?

Maybe just bring it into porter territory. A dark ale that gets its color from Midnight Wheat, or dehsuked carafa III, etc. I used to make a dark Christmas ale with cinnamon and vanilla but I haven't made it in a few years. I will keep my eye  on this thread.   

[darkmagneto]

I have been toying around with one of these too.  I plan to age the beer (5g batch) on :

 

1 – Stick Cinnamon

1 or 2 – vanilla beans

1oz – Ancho peppers

½ oz – Pasillia peppers

½ oz– Guagilla Peppers

4 oz – Peruvian Cocoa Nibs

 

 

 

Drez - Do you plan on using the dried version of those peppers?  If so, are you cutting them up and de-seeding them?  Or just throwing them right into secondary.

[HVB]

Drez - Do you plan on using the dried version of those peppers?  If so, are you cutting them up and de-seeding them?  Or just throwing them right into secondary.

Dried yes and I chose those because that is what I have on hand.  I plan to cut them up and take out most of the seeds, whatever shaking the hell out of them gets me.  This is really going to be trial and error I feel.