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#1 djinkc

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:01 PM

1272 - will be 3 weeks in the fermenter on Friday (probable brewday).  In a conical to harvest or I need to make a starter tonight.  Around 1.052 beer that it would be harvested from.  Been below 62 df during the entire ferment.  I say harvest.  



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:19 PM

1272 - will be 3 weeks in the fermenter on Friday (probable brewday).  In a conical to harvest or I need to make a starter tonight.  Around 1.052 beer that it would be harvested from.  Been below 62 df during the entire ferment.  I say harvest.  

Me too.



#3 djinkc

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:25 PM

Me too.

 

Thanks.  It's a week out of my usual routine to harvest.  Brewing has been put off for a few weeks - time to go again.



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:30 PM

Agreed; no reason not to harvest.



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 05:44 PM

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#6 Big Nake

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 06:11 PM

Yeah, I would not make a starter for yeast that had been in a primary for 3 weeks. But, I'm lazy like DJ. :P

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 06:50 PM

'Tis not laziness, gentlemen.  It's being efficient.  :D  :frank:



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:01 PM

harvest



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:43 PM

harvest, but keep enough to make a starter



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:47 PM

harvest, but keep enough to make a starter

This.  Some for now and some for later.



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:59 AM

1272 - will be 3 weeks in the fermenter on Friday (probable brewday).  In a conical to harvest or I need to make a starter tonight.  Around 1.052 beer that it would be harvested from.  Been below 62 df during the entire ferment.  I say harvest.  

 

If it's been in a conical for 3 weeks, I'd be more hesitant to harvest than if it was in a bucket.  Much more pressure on the yeast cells and increased risk of autolysis.



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:27 PM

If it's been in a conical for 3 weeks, I'd be more hesitant to harvest than if it was in a bucket.  Much more pressure on the yeast cells and increased risk of autolysis.

 

Interesting, I guess that could be a potential problem.  Poor planning, but I've never had autolysis with batches that sat longer in the conical.  15 gal Blichmann with 10+ gallons in it.  I've only had autolysis once, and that was way back in the 80's during the first round of brewing.  I'll still smell the harvest before I use it though.



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Posted 25 June 2015 - 05:37 PM

The way Palmer describes it..... Sheeeesh. Doesn't sound like fun, but I'll bet you're 1,000% safe. Stupid hunch.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 08:41 AM

Interesting, I guess that could be a potential problem.  Poor planning, but I've never had autolysis with batches that sat longer in the conical.  15 gal Blichmann with 10+ gallons in it.  I've only had autolysis once, and that was way back in the 80's during the first round of brewing.  I'll still smell the harvest before I use it though.

 

Well, your experience trumps my guess, but it's something to be aware of.



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Posted 26 June 2015 - 08:51 AM

Well, your experience trumps my guess, but it's something to be aware of.

 

Actually I decided to use some US-05 that should be used soon.  About to start sparging........



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Posted 27 June 2015 - 04:13 PM

Ive never made a starter cuz I never know when I'm gonna get a chance to brew until the morning of brewday. I always keep harvested slurry in the fridge. Even after a month of storage my slurrys never fail. It's easy for me cuz I always use Chico for everything. I'm a simple man I guess.



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Posted 30 June 2015 - 05:37 AM

Ive never made a starter cuz I never know when I'm gonna get a chance to brew until the morning of brewday. I always keep harvested slurry in the fridge. Even after a month of storage my slurrys never fail. It's easy for me cuz I always use Chico for everything. I'm a simple man I guess.

 

why not just use US-05?  keeps for years and is always ready to go at a moments notice.




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