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[chadm75]

I've got this really fresh cake of 3711 yeast and I want to brew a Fall Saison with it.  Something with a reddish or amber hue.  Any thoughts on recipe formulation or does anyone have one they're willing to share?

 

Thanks ya'll!

[SchwanzBrewer]

Use the blood of orhans as a sacrifice to the beer gods...

 

Or maybe just do a 100% red-x saison?

[Bklmt2000]

How about this (just off the top of my head):

 

a grist bill of mainly Pils or two-row of your choice, some oats (say, a 1/4 lb), some wheat (another 1/4 lb), maybe some Munich or Vienna (1 lb), and then some carafa or midnight wheat to get the color you want.  Maybe some cane sugar, a few days into the primary to dry things out if needed.

 

For a fall saison, I'd venture you might want an OG north of 1.060 or so.  Something on the hearty side.

 

Hops: whatever you like in a saison and/or whatever you have on hand or can get easily, such as Goldings, Hallertau. etc.

 

Hope this helps; if not, please ignore. 

[Poptop]

My Dirty Penny always pleases. Just enough crystal but plenty of Saison'y tradition

https://piratetreasu...ge/122212504480

[Poptop]

Oops wrong attachment, but not a bad attachment

[Poptop]

Makes my wife very happy
10 lb B Pils
8 oz Caramunich 56
5 oz 120
5 oz Special B
1 lb Panela
Magnum at 60 to 22 IBU
Amarillo to finish to 9 IBU
WLP 565

1.058'ish dropped to 1.004

[darkmagneto]

Check out this article.  I've made both the Saison d'Hiver and Saison Automne.  Both are EXCELLENT recipes.

 

httpss://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/2499/MJzym08_Saisons.pdf

[Poptop]

One of my favorite most read articles by the Saison Guru

[Genesee Ted]

Or maybe just do a 100% red-x saison?

If not 100%, at least a decent amount. Agreed

[MakeMeHoppy]

Where was this thread last week!!!     I never made a saison and had just ordered 3711. I had a rush brewing session because my next few weekends are booked. I just used Pilsner, Special B and aromatic and some saaz hops that I had on hand. This was just kind of a test batch to see what the yeast does and how well I like it.

 

darkmagneto, thanks for the PDF link. I'll try some of those recipes with the yeast cake from this first batch.

[MakeMeHoppy]

Wow I started the 3711 in the mid-60s and let it ramp up to mid-70's.  That is some funky smelling yeast. I got another week or so before I rack it to a keg and get to sample it.

[Poptop]

Where was this thread last week!!!     I never made a saison and had just ordered 3711. I had a rush brewing session because my next few weekends are booked. I just used Pilsner, Special B and aromatic and some saaz hops that I had on hand. This was just kind of a test batch to see what the yeast does and how well I like it.

You are going to have a very nice beer if that is your bill.  I like the way a little B plays with the yeast, even though traditionally crystals shouldn't be included.  I say baaaaah to that.  My fav combo is some B and 120 in a Saison.....

[denny]

I've got this really fresh cake of 3711 yeast and I want to brew a Fall Saison with it.  Something with a reddish or amber hue.  Any thoughts on recipe formulation or does anyone have one they're willing to share?

 

Thanks ya'll!

Check out this...httpss://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/2499/MJzym08_Saisons.pdf . It's Drew's "A Saison For Every Season" article.

[positiveContact]

Check out this article.  I've made both the Saison d'Hiver and Saison Automne.  Both are EXCELLENT recipes.

 

httpss://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/2499/MJzym08_Saisons.pdf

 

 

Check out this...httpss://www.homebrewersassociation.org/attachments/0000/2499/MJzym08_Saisons.pdf . It's Drew's "A Saison For Every Season" article.

 

oh yeah?

[HVB]

Some good info here too

 

https://www.brews-br...the-saison-guys

Edited by drez77, 06 August 2015 - 10:19 AM.

[MakeMeHoppy]

Where was this thread last week!!!     I never made a saison and had just ordered 3711. I had a rush brewing session because my next few weekends are booked. I just used Pilsner, Special B and aromatic and some saaz hops that I had on hand. This was just kind of a test batch to see what the yeast does and how well I like it.

 

darkmagneto, thanks for the PDF link. I'll try some of those recipes with the yeast cake from this first batch.

Just got done kegging and tasting my hydrometer sample. It came out far better than I expected with a thrown together recipe. I saved the yeast and will look to brew one of the recipes above in the above link in a few weeks

[neddles]

Just got done kegging and tasting my hydrometer sample. It came out far better than I expected with a thrown together recipe. I saved the yeast and will look to brew one of the recipes above in the above link in a few weeks

Cool, I thought the recipe you posted above looked quite nice. Kinda has me thinking about something similar for a fall saison.