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[HVB]

Northeast Brews-Bros tasting party!  We need to get some DAB, Ayinger and GL Dort Gold and do some tasting.

And any others I can get into my suitcase!

[positiveContact]

the though of the hang over scares me.  I need to pace myself around you guys

[positiveContact]

so I have the yeast for this in the fridge!  now with all of this talk of the best way to do starter I need to settle on that

[3rd party JKor]

Which yeast are you using?  I have my yeast (838) ready for my export lager as well.  Probably brewing it wednesday or thursday.  I'm going more towards the Dortmunder/Great Lakes version than the Ayinger version.  We'll have to do a side by side taste test.

[positiveContact]

833 since that allegedly IS the ayinger yeast.  otherwise I probably wouldn't have thought to try it.

[positiveContact]

6.3 mL of lactic even after adding gypsum and calcium chloride!  holy smokes!

[neddles]

6.3 mL of lactic even after adding gypsum and calcium chloride!  holy smokes!

Pale grist. How much did you use in your Hennepin-esque saison with Belle?

[positiveContact]

Pale grist. How much did you use in your Hennepin-esque saison with Belle?

 

I used acidulated malt for that one.  I've only used lactic acid one time.

[positiveContact]

also note...

 

I put in something that was close to "yellow balanced" in bru'n water.

 

50 ppm Ca

80 ppm Sulfate

60 ppm Chloride

[neddles]

I used acidulated malt for that one.  I've only used lactic acid one time.

Oh yeah, my bad. FWIW I used 4.0ml on a batch roughly half your size and RO water for my version of that beer (same grist as yours IIRC).

[positiveContact]

Oh yeah, my bad. FWIW I used 4.0ml on a batch roughly half your size and RO water for my version of that beer (same grist as yours IIRC).

 

well I guess 6.3mL isn't so crazy then

[3rd party JKor]

I've used 1-2 mL in my 3 gal batches, so 6mL sounds pretty much in line.

[positiveContact]

so I'm going to do something completely off the wall here and make one them there shaken not stirred starters the day before.  that's right, 1 vial of white labs 833 into 2L of well oxygenated starter, no stir plate and pitched into 10 gallons of 1.051 wort.  send some vibes to me!

[HVB]

I am debating if I use the 833 I have at home for this first and then brew a dunkel off the cake or what.  I think that is the better route to go than brewing the dunkel first.

 

If I do this I will be also doing the starter the same as you.

 

Are you going to be able to achieve the 4:1 vessel size that is talked about for this yeast method or just going to do 2L in a 5L flask?

[positiveContact]

I am debating if I use the 833 I have at home for this first and then brew a dunkel off the cake or what.  I think that is the better route to go than brewing the dunkel first.

 

If I do this I will be also doing the starter the same as you.

 

Are you going to be able to achieve the 4:1 vessel size that is talked about for this yeast method or just going to do 2L in a 5L flask?

 

I'd have to use a bucket to achieve that.  I was thinking of just pumping some pure O2 into the wort and the flask head space and then shaking it.

[matt6150]

I am debating if I use the 833 I have at home for this first and then brew a dunkel off the cake or what. I think that is the better route to go than brewing the dunkel first.

If I do this I will be also doing the starter the same as you.

Are you going to be able to achieve the 4:1 vessel size that is talked about for this yeast method or just going to do 2L in a 5L flask?

That would be my hold up is the vessel size. And how do you seal a flask to shake it?

[positiveContact]

That would be my hold up is the vessel size. And how do you seal a flask to shake it?

 

I was thinking plastic wrap (or whatever it's called) and a tight elastic band.

[HVB]

I was thinking plastic wrap (or whatever it's called) and a tight elastic band.

That is what I was thinking too. I do have some solid stoppers that fit my flasks I guess I could also use.

 

I think for me it will be a 4l flask seeing I will just do a 5g batch.

[positiveContact]

That is what I was thinking too. I do have some solid stoppers that fit my flasks I guess I could also use.

 

I think for me it will be a 4l flask seeing I will just do a 5g batch.

 

yeah, a 1L starter for you then.

[HVB]

yeah, a 1L starter for you then.

I am just really confused as to when to start the starter.  Knowing when it will hit high krausen seems to be a crap shoot to me.