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#21 denny

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:29 PM

Got the bulk pricing. Still fairly expensive. I'm willing to buy a big thing bottle to do some research though. I guess I'm gonna have some beligan beers in my near brewing future.

 

IMO, you simply can't brew a dubbel or BDSA without it.



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:25 PM

IMO, you simply can't brew a dubbel or BDSA without it.

 

I've always used it.

 

The price of a pint of dubbel just went up by $0.15. Good thing most bars sell 10 oz of dubbel in a tulip glass for $8 - $10.  


So would you replace all the crystal malt with the D-90?



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:26 PM

I've always used it.

 

The price of a pint of dubbel just went up by $0.15. Good thing most bars sell 10 oz of dubbel in a tulip glass for $8 - $10.  


So would you replace all the crystal malt with the D-90?

 

Whoa!  Glad it's not like that around here!



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 02:33 PM

Whoa!  Glad it's not like that around here!

 

Usually anything 8%+ abv is around $8 for a 10oz pour. If it's a rare beer it will be $10 - $12 for 10oz. Most DIPA's are $7 for 12 oz. IPA and everything else is generally $5 - $6 a pint.

 

Anyway...


Any other yeast preferences for this beer other than 3787?



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 02:40 PM

IIRC for my BDSA, Denny almost insisted I use it.  Glad I did.



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 02:44 PM

IIRC for my BDSA, Denny almost insisted I use it.  Glad I did.

I thought that was 1762?



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 02:58 PM

I thought that was 1762?


Dammit, you're right. Thanks.

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:22 AM

Denny, my question still stands. How much crystal malt would you replace by using D-90?



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:44 AM

Usually anything 8%+ abv is around $8 for a 10oz pour. If it's a rare beer it will be $10 - $12 for 10oz. Most DIPA's are $7 for 12 oz. IPA and everything else is generally $5 - $6 a pint.

 

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Any other yeast preferences for this beer other than 3787?

 

For a dubbel, nope.  If it was BDSA, I might suggest Rochefort (WY1762) but to me it's too fruity for a dubbel.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 10:47 AM

Denny, my question still stands. How much crystal malt would you replace by using D-90?

 

I assume by crystal you;re referring to the CaraMunich?  I guess I don't see the syrup as replacing it at all since they have different purposes.  Maybe cut the CaraMunich back to about 3-5%? 



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:40 AM

I assume by crystal you;re referring to the CaraMunich?  I guess I don't see the syrup as replacing it at all since they have different purposes.  Maybe cut the CaraMunich back to about 3-5%? 

 

Basically. The CM3 is basically a crystal malt. It has different flavor than C60, but it has essentially the same purpose, it's a flavoring malt. The D-90 will add some flavor components too. After weeing the westmalle clone recipe, there's no crystal type malts in it. The D-90 is probably playing an important role in flavor as well as body.

 

BTW - Rochefort, I had some 10 the other night. Just too boosy. I'm drinking some 8 tonight. Been a while since I've tried it. I'm hoping its a little more balanced. Fruit flavors on the 10 were huge after it warmed up though.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:42 AM

Still didn't find Westmalle Dubbel. Have to check another bottle shop on the way home.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:46 AM

I thought Rochefort 10 was a quad? 



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:50 AM

I thought Rochefort 10 was a quad? 

 

Yeah, but I already had some in the fridge and it uses 1762 yeast so I drank it.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:51 AM

Yeah, but I already had some in the fridge and it uses 1762 yeast so I drank it.

Got it, makes sense now.

 

Hard to believe Westmalle is hard to find. 



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:55 AM

Got it, makes sense now.

 

Hard to believe Westmalle is hard to find. 

 

I didn't look that hard. There's a shop around the corner from my house that has a decent selection. I'll hit total wine on the way home and get some there. I already checked online and it's in stock.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 11:57 AM

Now get some Westy 8 and call it a party!



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 12:28 PM

Now get some Westy 8 and call it a party!

 

Where the hell am I supposed to find that? I don't even think it's for sale in the US.



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Posted 18 November 2015 - 12:37 PM

Where the hell am I supposed to find that? I don't even think it's for sale in the US.

Get on a plane my good man!

 

man I could not even find any on the for sale sights .. stuff is hard to come by


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 12:45 PM

Basically. The CM3 is basically a crystal malt. It has different flavor than C60, but it has essentially the same purpose, it's a flavoring malt. The D-90 will add some flavor components too. After weeing the westmalle clone recipe, there's no crystal type malts in it. The D-90 is probably playing an important role in flavor as well as body.

 

BTW - Rochefort, I had some 10 the other night. Just too boosy. I'm drinking some 8 tonight. Been a while since I've tried it. I'm hoping its a little more balanced. Fruit flavors on the 10 were huge after it warmed up though.

 

I prefer the 6 and 8 over the 10.  The only difference is more sugar as the gravity increases.


I thought Rochefort 10 was a quad? 

 

Well, there really is no definition of quad.  R10 is best classed as a BDSA.




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