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[shaggaroo]

So I'm planning on brewing a weissbier on Friday. I know that IBUs should be kept to maybe 15 at most. I'd like to try to keep schmutz to a minimum and was considering using a non-Noble hop (ZOMG!), such as this damn Mosaic I'm finding I love. Bad idea? OK idea? Fantastic idea? All thoughts etc welcomed.

[MyaCullen]

Sounds tasty! Tradition be damned

[neddles]

Use Mosaic for bittering or late. If late how much and when?

[shaggaroo]

Ok good, that was my thinking too.
Only a bittering addition.

Edited by shaggaroo, 14 June 2016 - 07:49 PM.

[neddles]

Agree with Mic. Probably work just fine.

[Deerslyr]

At 15 IBU's, you are really just looking for the antiseptic properties. The yeast is going to shine. I have a Hefeweisen in the fermenter that is ready to keg.

[MyaCullen]

I hate having to hit such a small IBU, especially with a high alpha hop.

[shaggaroo]

Mic my other choice is traditional Tettanger, but these "4-4.5% AA" hops arrived at 2.4% AA... grrr

[Bklmt2000]

Use the Mosaic and enjoy it.  It'll likely complement the other flavors in the beer.

 

What yeast are you using?

[Big Nake]

Definitely not sacrilege because homebrewers can do what they want. You will possibly make something that no one else has made. If it's just bittering, less of the Mosaic should come through. I guess that in a beer like this (I'll guess that 3068 could be your yeast) that the brewers are looking for that banana and clove-like flavor since that's a Weissbier's gig in the first place. Do you think that the Mosaic will get in the way of what you're trying to get out of the beer? My guess is that it could pleasantly contribute to the overall flavor especially if you like it. But now it's competing with other flavors. Just thinking out loud.

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

 I've never seen a hefe with late hopping of the tropical variety.  It might make for an interesting beer.  

[neddles]

 I've never seen a hefe with late hopping of the tropical variety.  It might make for an interesting beer.  

https://www.newglaru...er/crackd-wheat

 

https://www.newglaru...imperial-weizen

 

ETA: Amarillo and Cascade anyways, so fruity but not super tropical

Edited by neddles, 15 June 2016 - 06:36 AM.

[shaggaroo]

Bklmt I think I'm going to use the dry WB-06 from Fermentis as someone in my dry yeast thread suggested that it's a little more clovey than 3068, which is exactly what I like. I'll also do a ferulic acid rest.

Ken I was thinking the fruitiness if any comes through would complement the beer.

CWG no late hopping, though I could throw some in around 10-15 minutes?

And yeah I'm never one to worry about BJC-who??

My other option would be Citra for bittering? Any thoughts oh wise ones?

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

https://www.newglaru...er/crackd-wheat

 

https://www.newglaru...imperial-weizen

 

ETA: Amarillo and Cascade anyways, so fruity but not super tropical

 

Cool, I need to get North of the Wall Cheddar Curtain!

[Big Nake]

Bklmt I think I'm going to use the dry WB-06 from Fermentis as someone in my dry yeast thread suggested that it's a little more clovey than 3068, which is exactly what I like. I'll also do a ferulic acid rest.

Ken I was thinking the fruitiness if any comes through would complement the beer.

CWG no late hopping, though I could throw some in around 10-15 minutes?

And yeah I'm never one to worry about BJC-who??

My other option would be Citra for bittering? Any thoughts oh wise ones?

I have never used Citra for bittering (or Mosaic for that matter) but I have used both of them late and I feel like Citra is more assertive than Mosaic... for better or worse. If you want more of that tropical-citrusy thing to come through, go with Citra. If you want less, it seems like Mosaic would be better. The Weiss-heads that I know love their 3068 but I'm not sure that any of them have tried the WB06 so you should definitely try it. As we discussed, dry yeasts have come a long way and I have some dry yeast batches coming up. Cheers.

[shaggaroo]

Thanks for the encouragement Ken! I'll probably stick with the Mosaic.

[Bklmt2000]

Bklmt I think I'm going to use the dry WB-06 from Fermentis as someone in my dry yeast thread suggested that it's a little more clovey than 3068, which is exactly what I like. I'll also do a ferulic acid rest.

Ken I was thinking the fruitiness if any comes through would complement the beer.

CWG no late hopping, though I could throw some in around 10-15 minutes?

And yeah I'm never one to worry about BJC-who??

My other option would be Citra for bittering? Any thoughts oh wise ones?

 

I've used the WB-06 several times; it's a good yeast.  I agree that it's a bit more clovey than 3068, but it's still IMHO a solid wheat beer yeast.

 

And with Mosaic as bittering only, and especially <20 IBUs, it should turn out a nice wheat beer.

[shaggaroo]

I've used the WB-06 several times; it's a good yeast.  I agree that it's a bit more clovey than 3068, but it's still IMHO a solid wheat beer yeast.

 

And with Mosaic as bittering only, and especially <20 IBUs, it should turn out a nice wheat beer.

OK cool, sounds like a plan!

[SchwanzBrewer]

Why only 15ibu? Mosaic is such a nice hop... 

[Big Nake]

Why only 15ibu? Mosaic is such a nice hop...

This is where the intersection of "style guideline" and "feck it" meet. This is not my style but I do know that a hefeweizen is low on hops.