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#1 Big Nake

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Posted 20 August 2016 - 08:09 PM

I have a few signs and beer trays advertising "BEER & ALE". Does anyone know the historic significance of this type of wording? I would say that BEER is ALE and that ALE is BEER. It's almost as if the word BEER was used to mean LAGER in this case.

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 09:02 AM

Yes, it could mean lager.  In the past classifications were a lot different than they are now.  I've seen listings of a bar serving beer, ale, stout and porter, implying that each of these used to be thought of differently.



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Posted 21 August 2016 - 01:00 PM

Beer will make you go blind. Ale will get you there faster.



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Posted 21 August 2016 - 06:22 PM

I think Texas had (has?) rules that beer above a certain percentage has to be labeled as "Ale" even if its a double bock.



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Posted 21 August 2016 - 06:27 PM

I think Texas had (has?) rules that beer above a certain percentage has to be labeled as "Ale" even if its a double bock.

I don't know what that guideline is but I know what you're talking about. I actually had a bottle of German lager in my hand and somewhere on the label it said "ALE IN TEXAS". What kind of shit is that? I think that Denny nailed it where various products were considered different and so BEER AND ALE meant "lager and ale" although I'm not sure why they wouldn't just say BEER and kill all the birds with one stone. :P

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:13 AM

I don't know what that guideline is but I know what you're talking about. I actually had a bottle of German lager in my hand and somewhere on the label it said "ALE IN TEXAS". What kind of shit is that? I think that Denny nailed it where various products were considered different and so BEER AND ALE meant "lager and ale" although I'm not sure why they wouldn't just say BEER and kill all the birds with one stone. :P

 

Because it was a different time.  In 50-100 years people will laugh at what we called it.



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 06:04 PM

Texas TABC

 

The manufacturer, winery, distiller, or owner of the product when it becomes a marketable product is responsible for completing the label approval process. Each product will fall into one of the following classes:

  • Beer â€“ a malt beverage containing four percent of alcohol by weight or less.
  • Ale/Malt Liquor â€“ a malt beverage containing more than four percent of alcohol by weight.
  • Wine â€“ a product obtained from the fermentation of sound ripe grapes, fruits, berries, or honey.
  • Distilled Spirit â€“ alcohol or liquor produced in whole or in part by the process of distillation.



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