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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:31 PM

I thought I was on to something with 30 minute boils and now I just have to give up boiling all together!



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:34 PM

I thought I was on to something with 30 minute boils and now I just have to give up boiling all together!

 

I have to think a short boil must do something though.  I'd at least want to boil for 10 mins or something.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:35 PM

Stop thinking, Morty. Just let it happen...

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:36 PM

Stop thinking, Morty. Just let it happen...

 

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:46 PM

I'm jettisoning all other brewing plans to pursue 1hr AG batches.

 

 

The really surprising thing, to me, isn't that he got IBU out of the dry hops but that he got 80 IBU with only 10 oz.  I always imagined that a heavy handed dry hop might add 10-20 IBU, but nothing like that.  Throw 5oz in a APA and get 40IBU?  That's mindblowing.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:48 PM

I have to think a short boil must do something though.  I'd at least want to boil for 10 mins or something.

 

why?  Bringing the wort to 170 will pasteurize it.  A rolling boil supposedly coagulates proteins, but in a NEIPA that wouldn't matter much.  Not so sure how it would be for other styles aesthetically, but it appears that other than you may not need to boil.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:50 PM

If you can get sufficient IBU from the dry hop or steep then the boil isn't necessary.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:05 PM

why?  Bringing the wort to 170 will pasteurize it.  A rolling boil supposedly coagulates proteins, but in a NEIPA that wouldn't matter much.  Not so sure how it would be for other styles aesthetically, but it appears that other than you may not need to boil.

 

I was talking in general - if the only effect is clarity loss it makes sense for an NEIPA and maybe a wheat beer and maybe some other styles I'm not thinking of.  but for a lot of stuff I'm looking for some clarity and I think no boil might cause an issue there.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:11 PM

I was talking in general - if the only effect is clarity loss it makes sense for an NEIPA and maybe a wheat beer and maybe some other styles I'm not thinking of.  but for a lot of stuff I'm looking for some clarity and I think no boil might cause an issue there.

 

 

Probably worth it to see if it really does affect clarity.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:13 PM

Probably worth it to see if it really does affect clarity.

 

let me know :D



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:16 PM

The only thing keeping me from doing this is in the article he said that the beer did not have the aroma or flavor you would expect from a beer dryhopped so much.  Also, how will I add brewtan if I do not boil :)



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:19 PM

The only thing keeping me from doing this is in the article he said that the beer did not have the aroma or flavor you would expect from a beer dryhopped so much.  Also, how will I add brewtan if I do not boil :)

 

 

That's strange.  I don't see why the aroma would be affected.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 01:28 PM

That's strange.  I don't see why the aroma would be affected.

And strangely it oxidized faster too.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:15 PM

Probably worth it to see if it really does affect clarity.

 

Yep, I intend to try it ASAP.



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Posted 12 March 2017 - 09:01 AM

Start to finish today was 2:03. All numbers looked fine so time will tell.

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 11:43 AM

Start to finish today was 2:03. All numbers looked fine so time will tell.

 

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 01:02 PM

holy wow



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 05:18 AM

holy wow

30 minute mash and 30 minute boil.  I think I could have shaved some time off it too.



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:39 PM

Why'd you boil?!

Edited by JKor, 13 March 2017 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 12:46 PM

Why'd you boil?!

Baby steps!!




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