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Posted 26 March 2017 - 03:48 AM

the starter is finally going.  still waiting on the main batch.  not really surprised since dry yeast usually takes 24 or so hours for me.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 05:56 AM

making pliny the lager today. f it!



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:23 AM

making pliny the lager today. f it!


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:25 AM

So how long was it from the time you made the starter? That won't always apply even for yeast that is the same age but it might give you an idea for next time how far in advance [of brewday] to make your starter. I'm pretty sure I've done exactly the same thing... made a starter in anticipation of a Saturday brewday (or whatever) only to have a starter that did not look active but I pitched it anyway. If I wasn't going to get it when it was really rocking, I guess I would aim for "on the way up" but even better maybe "on the way down" knowing that it had already reached it's high point. I'll be brewing later today with 2124.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:36 AM

made the starter thursday night.  granted half of the time was not at room temp but at a cooler temp but thurs night to sunday morning is the time frame.  there are bubbles foam on the top and when I swirl it a lot of CO2 is released out of the airlock and it smells beer like.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:44 AM

So 2+ days which may have been closer to 48 hours if it had been at room temp. There was no harm at the lower temp except that it lengthened the time a little. That ~48 hour timeframe seems about like what I might expect to see. I have always thought that if your cleaning and sanitizing was good that you could just let the yeast come alive and start rocking in your closed fermenter but this last time with OYL004 (which took 3-4 days to start) changed my mind. I clearly needed things to start quicker than that and I ended up with 5 gallons of what looked, smelled and tasted like a Belgian Hefeweizen instead of a blonde ale.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 07:24 AM

So 2+ days which may have been closer to 48 hours if it had been at room temp. There was no harm at the lower temp except that it lengthened the time a little. That ~48 hour timeframe seems about like what I might expect to see. I have always thought that if your cleaning and sanitizing was good that you could just let the yeast come alive and start rocking in your closed fermenter but this last time with OYL004 (which took 3-4 days to start) changed my mind. I clearly needed things to start quicker than that and I ended up with 5 gallons of what looked, smelled and tasted like a Belgian Hefeweizen instead of a blonde ale.

 

yowzer.  I hope that's not what my pils ends up like.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:03 PM

phew.  finished up around 2:00.  5:00 is pretty good for me considering I wasn't prepared at all.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:07 PM

I think the dry yeast lager is starting up now.  took just a little over 24 hours from pitching the dry yeast.  unfortunately it's about 48 hours from when I chilled the wort :-/



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 02:43 PM

yowzer.  I hope that's not what my pils ends up like.

I think it may be he first time I had a 3-4 day delay and I also think it may be the first time I had a bad batch as a result of a delayed primary fermentation. Clearly some other organism beat the yeast to the colonizing of that wort which had to be my fault no matter what it was. DJ mentioned that he thought that some people would like the resulting beer and I have no doubt that is true. It really did taste like some sort of Belgian beer with some funky banana and clove thrown in and it was supposed to be a clean-tasting, hoppy blonde ale.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:58 AM

dry yeast lager is rocking at a reasonable rate this morning.  the IPL made with the 48 hour wyeast looks like it has positive pressure but isn't rocking yet.  I expect when I get home tonight it will be.



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:23 AM

the IPL was going nice and strong yesterday afternoon so probably less than 24 hours to get going.  both probably past their most active portion of the fermentation now.  I started them both around 53-54F to make sure they would get going and I'm letting them naturally rise on their own.  the dry lager is approaching 56F now but I'm guessing tonight I'll have to start actively running the heater in there to keep the temp heading upwards.


Edited by Evil_Morty, 28 March 2017 - 06:23 AM.


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Posted 05 April 2017 - 05:56 AM

so both of these beers finished at good FGs.  1.009 for the pils, 1.010 for the IPL.  the pils tastes pretty good already but that one finished quicker.  that was with the dry yeast.  the IPL has a lot of shit floating in it right now so it's harder to tell.  nothing really obviously wrong.  I just started chilling them last night to drop everything I can out.




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