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#21 ER Pemberton

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:44 AM

The issue is that the other hops will cover up the Mt. Hood so I just don't see a reason to use it here. Now if you wanted to make a beer with a ton of Mt. Hood (they're great for dual-purpose brewing) then I could see it. You either let the Mt. Hood shine or work with something else that's clean or maybe leave it out. It would be like making something with a bunch of Hallertau and then covering it with Amarillo or Chinook or something. I once posted a pale ale recipe where I bittered with something and then used Mt. Hood mixed with Cascade for the late hops. A number of other brewers bristled at the concept of covering the Mt. Hood with Cascade. It would be like using 30 year old rum in a fruity, frozen drink. :D But of course, you're the brewer.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 05:13 PM

How do Mosaic and Galaxy play together? I make a lot of beers with citra so I thought​ maybe I'd do something else. I also have a small amount of cent and Simcoe but those would be more in the background.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 05:38 PM

Mosaic and galaxy sounds good to me or amarillo and galaxy.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:33 PM

Galaxy is really nice. Mosaic has that cat pee thing going on for those who can pick up on it. Maybe the Galaxy will cover up the cat pee. :P

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:58 AM

Galaxy is really nice. Mosaic has that cat pee thing going on for those who can pick up on it. Maybe the Galaxy will cover up the cat pee. :P

 

well I like simcoe as well so I must not mind it :D


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:29 AM

Mosaic and galaxy sounds good to me or amarillo and galaxy.

 

what kind of ratio would be right on mosaic and galaxy?  I'm thinking more mosaic than galaxy.  It seems like galaxy is a little more dominant flavor wise.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:33 AM

what kind of ratio would be right on mosaic and galaxy?  I'm thinking more mosaic than galaxy.  It seems like galaxy is a little more dominant flavor wise.

2:1 Mosaic to Galaxy.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:44 AM

2:1 Mosaic to Galaxy.

 

that's kind of what I was thinking too.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:47 AM

I'm planning to make a white pale ale with Azacca and Idaho 7 this weekend...that counts as a hoppy wheat, right? :)


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:15 AM

just some specs for the 10 gal batch

 

OG: 1.056

SRM: 6

IBU: 40

 

1.75 oz nugget @ 30min

1 oz mosaic @ 2min

0.5 oz galaxy @ 2min

2 oz mosaic @ 0min

1 oz galaxy @0min

 

dry hop (per 5 gal keg): 3 oz mosaic, 1.5 oz galaxy

 

also, it's been a while since I've used this much wheat (44%).  do I need to use rice hulls with my batch sparging setup (SS braid filter)?


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:23 AM

also adjusted my pH to 5.5 (I seem to end up a little lower generally, not sure why).

Ca: 109

Sulfate: 176

Chloride: 90


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:24 AM

I have gone that much with out rice hulls but if you have them and want the insurance use em.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:34 AM

so I don't have quite as much wheat as I thought I had.  so now I'm at an OG of 1.053-1.054 and I'm using 41% wheat.

 

I think I'll make up the gravity diff with some us pale ale.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:37 AM

so I don't have quite as much wheat as I thought I had.  so now I'm at an OG of 1.053-1.054 and I'm using 41% wheat.

 

I think I'll make up the gravity diff with some us pale ale.

Make it up with flaked wheat, or oatmeal.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:47 AM

already just threw a pound of US pale ale in the bucket.  I probably could have made it up with oatmeal from the cupboard but either way I think what I did will work fine too.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:49 AM

so I don't have quite as much wheat as I thought I had.  so now I'm at an OG of 1.053-1.054 and I'm using 41% wheat.

 

I think I'll make up the gravity diff with some us pale ale.

What!! You do not have a 100#'s of wheat just sitting around like I do... what was I thinking!


I'm planning to make a white pale ale with Azacca and Idaho 7 this weekend...that counts as a hoppy wheat, right? :)

Report back how it is.  I have some azacca and I thought they were really mild.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:49 AM

What!! You do not have a 100#'s of wheat just sitting around like I do... what was I thinking!

 

this wheat is years old at this point.  I'm basically making this beer to get rid of it b/c I almost never use it anymore.  I chewed a few kernels and they were still crunchy so I figure I'm good to go!


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:52 AM

Out of curiosity, how old is old? I probably have 50# of assorted grains (base plus specialty) that are at least 10 years old, likely closer to 15. Been hesitant to throw them away for some reason, probably because I hate wasting "food" and am really cheap.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:56 AM

Out of curiosity, how old is old? I probably have 50# of assorted grains (base plus specialty) that are at least 10 years old, likely closer to 15. Been hesitant to throw them away for some reason, probably because I hate wasting "food" and am really cheap.

 

probably 3-4 years.

 

the oldest grain I've used is 6 year old munich.  I even used it in a helles and the beer was great.  I think if it's still crunchy you are good to go.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 06:57 AM

I have used some that is 6+ years old with no real issues.  I tasted it before I used it though.


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