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#1 Big Nake

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Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:13 PM

https://www.bestmalz.de/en/malt/BEST_Red_X.htm]Interesting[/url].

 

 



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:17 PM

Very, I've been struggling in the red beer department lately.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:48 PM

From the color of the beer in that picture (its the color of my cherry melomel) I wouldn't be surprised if they are coloring the hulls like pistachio shells. Seems weird that, if it is indeed possible, it took until 2013 for someone to figure out how to malt a grain to give that kind of color and still have its diastatic power.

 

Also thought this, from the Red-X info sheet was interesting "RATE: [color=rgb(81,2,6);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(252,244,221);]Up to 100% of the grain bill (100% recommended for red-tinted beers)"  [/color]

So what color is it if I sub it 10% munich?

 

Wonder how it tastes?


Edited by ettels4, 02 September 2013 - 07:49 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:51 PM

From the color of the beer in that picture (its the color of my cherry melomel) I wouldn't be surprised if they are coloring the hulls like pistachio shells. Seems weird that, if it is indeed possible, it took until 2013 for someone to figure out how to malt a grain to give that kind of color and still have its diastatic power.

 

Also thought this, from the Red-X info sheet was interesting "RATE: [color=rgb(81,2,6);font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(252,244,221);]Up to 100% of the grain bill (100% recommended for red-tinted beers)"  [/color]

So what color is it if I sub it 10% munich?

 

Wonder how it tastes?

I doubt a german maltster could legally use food dye in a malt



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

I also thought the color was unusual and the thought of using it as 100% of the grain bill made me wince a little.  If you used it for 25% or 50%, it doesn't seem like the color would be that deep.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 07:56 PM

I also thought the color was unusual and the thought of using it as 100% of the grain bill made me wince a little.  If you used it for 25% or 50%, it doesn't seem like the color would be that deep.

I dunno myself, the tech sheet lists it at 11-13L which would be consistent with the 100% claim


Edited by Mean_Mic, 02 September 2013 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

I doubt a german maltster could legally use food dye in a malt

No probably not. To clarify, I wasn't suggesting there was literally pistachio coloring. I was suggesting that perhaps the color of the picture is a little exaggerated. I'd be curious to see what a 100% (as they recommend) beer would taste like. Would you like a 100% 11-13L munich beer? I would be curious to see how different this is from that.



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:27 PM

No probably not. To clarify, I wasn't suggesting there was literally pistachio coloring. I was suggesting that perhaps the color of the picture is a little exaggerated. I'd be curious to see what a 100% (as they recommend) beer would taste like. Would you like a 100% 11-13L munich beer? I would be curious to see how different this is from that.

I have had a couple 100% 10L Munich IPAs, pretty good



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:30 PM

I have had a couple 100% 10L Munich IPAs, pretty good

I have not. Would love to try one though. Know a commercial one?



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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:32 PM

I have not. Would love to try one though. Know a commercial one?

no, sorry these were both homebrewed



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 08:58 AM

I have had a couple 100% 10L Munich IPAs, pretty good

 

I make 'em frequently, but I wouldn't call the color red.



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Posted 03 September 2013 - 10:58 AM

I make 'em frequently, but I wouldn't call the color red.

me either, I was responding to the question of whether I'd want to drink one

 

I wonder what they do to get that shade though, maybe they have adjusted the moisture content pre-kilning to force the husk to brown at a different rate?



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 03:59 PM

Lovibond can be a tricky rating though.  Isn't it more like the darkness of the malt rather than color?  Anyway, this malt looks very interesting.  I want a sack of it.  



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 05:57 PM

Lovibond can be a tricky rating though.  Isn't it more like the darkness of the malt rather than color?  Anyway, this malt looks very interesting.  I want a sack of it.  

true, dunno if I want an entire sack of it, though Best Maltz makes good stuff



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

true, dunno if I want an entire sack of it, though Best Maltz makes good stuff

We use a lot of Best Maltz stuff at work, so I use it a lot.  Very quality malts.. 



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 09:37 AM

We use a lot of Best Maltz stuff at work, so I use it a lot.  Very quality malts.. 

I'd use more of it if it weren't so expensive, compared to domestic 



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 03:16 PM

For a homebrew batch the price is not a huge difference IMO.  Couple of bucks at most for a 10 gal batch.  



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:41 PM

I just emailed my supplier to look into getting a sack of this.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:42 PM

For a homebrew batch the price is not a huge difference IMO.  Couple of bucks at most for a 10 gal batch.  

at retail LHBS prices, it's 50 cents a lb more for me $1 vs $1.50

 

sack rate is 84 cents a lb for domestic or $1 a lb for Best Maltz



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 05:18 PM

at retail LHBS prices, it's 50 cents a lb more for me $1 vs $1.50

 

sack rate is 84 cents a lb for domestic or $1 a lb for Best Maltz

But Mic, Best Malz = :wub:




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