I don't quite get the anti-crystal trend. i understand overuse is an issue and people's tastes will vary from wanting to use more/less but to go completely to none most of the time seems too far. on the regular i'd miss the body and flavor that crystal brings. it's one the things I enjoy about a lot of beers and it balances oh so nicely with lots of hops.
how simple is your american pale ale?
#41
Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:17 AM
#42
Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:42 AM
I've been buying various styles from Lagunitas. The Maximus (another thread) is absolutely delicious, as is their pale ale. The IPA was good, but not outstanding. If anyone has ever cloned the pale ale, please share your recipe.
#43
Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:04 AM
when I was brewing it was dead simple.
8# 2 row
1/3 of crystal 30
Magnum and cascade or amarillo depending on how I was feeling.
and always 1056.
damn I miss brewing.
#44
Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:43 AM
when I was brewing it was dead simple.
8# 2 row
1/3 of crystal 30
Magnum and cascade or amarillo depending on how I was feeling.
and always 1056.
damn I miss brewing.
remember our I-90 IPA collaboration?
12 lbs of 2-Row
1 lbs of C-40
whole bunch of Whole Ahtanum
Chico yeast
#45
Posted 14 September 2013 - 12:17 PM
I use C-10 and carapils in my APA. Because of my overnight mashing, my beer can become very dry and the crystal add some body to them.
#46
Posted 14 September 2013 - 12:31 PM
I use C-10 and carapils in my APA. Because of my overnight mashing, my beer can become very dry and the crystal add some body to them.
that's a pale Pale, I like a little more maillard flavor
#47
Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:05 PM
that's a pale Pale, I like a little more maillard flavor
+1. I use crystal mainly for the flavor and way down the list is body. But that's the great thing about having so many crystal options. You can do a lot with it.
#48
Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:19 PM
+1. I use crystal mainly for the flavor and way down the list is body. But that's the great thing about having so many crystal options. You can do a lot with it.
I am in love with European Crystals, though I still like GWs standard crystals well enough
#49
Posted 14 September 2013 - 01:40 PM
I am in love with European Crystals, though I still like GWs standard crystals well enough
I am in love with European Crystals, though I still like GWs standard crystals well enough
Ya know, I haven't used much Euro crystal. Thanks for mentioning it....I think I'll start messing around with it. Now that you mention it, I wonder how many people who say they don't care for crystal have been using something like Briess crystal, which is usually made from row, without knowing it? And for that matter, I wonder how much difference 6 row makes for something like crystal?
#50
Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:05 PM
I know I'm chiming in late here but I love my crystal malts in APAs and IPAs. I would agree on the simplicity of 95% Pale/2row 5% C40-75. I know there is a movement towards no crystal but the style is defined by SNBC's PA which has crystal in it and a healthy dose of it.
Next thing people are going to say is Cascades don't belong in an APA.
#51
Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:22 PM
I know I'm chiming in late here but I love my crystal malts in APAs and IPAs. I would agree on the simplicity of 95% Pale/2row 5% C40-75. I know there is a movement towards no crystal but the style is defined by SNBC's PA which has crystal in it and a healthy dose of it.
Next thing people are going to say is Cascades don't belong in an APA.
I know a couple cascade haterz
#52
Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:24 PM
Ya know, I haven't used much Euro crystal. Thanks for mentioning it....I think I'll start messing around with it. Now that you mention it, I wonder how many people who say they don't care for crystal have been using something like Briess crystal, which is usually made from row, without knowing it? And for that matter, I wonder how much difference 6 row makes for something like crystal?
Ya know, I haven't used much Euro crystal. Thanks for mentioning it....I think I'll start messing around with it. Now that you mention it, I wonder how many people who say they don't care for crystal have been using something like Briess crystal, which is usually made from row, without knowing it? And for that matter, I wonder how much difference 6 row makes for something like crystal?
Ya know, I haven't used much Euro crystal. Thanks for mentioning it....I think I'll start messing around with it. Now that you mention it, I wonder how many people who say they don't care for crystal have been using something like Briess crystal, which is usually made from row, without knowing it? And for that matter, I wonder how much difference 6 row makes for something like crystal?
I heart Cara Munich
#53
Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:31 PM
I know a couple cascade haterz
take away they're beer drinker card!
#54
Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:43 PM
I heart Cara Munich
Yeah, I have some of that but only use it in a couple recipes. Time to experiment!
#55
Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:42 PM
Ya know, I haven't used much Euro crystal. Thanks for mentioning it....I think I'll start messing around with it.
I use Weyermann's CaraAroma instead of C120 in SSOS and also in an all-citra AIPA I make, and like it a lot.
While a lot of people seem to be switching to lower Lovibond crystal malts, I've tended towards smaller quantities of higher Lovibond crystal malts.
#56
Posted 14 September 2013 - 07:26 PM
I use Weyermann's CaraAroma instead of C120 in SSOS and also in an all-citra AIPA I make, and like it a lot.
While a lot of people seem to be switching to lower Lovibond crystal malts, I've tended towards smaller quantities of higher Lovibond crystal malts.
I have used 1/2lb of caravienna and 1/2lb of C120 with good success in both APA and AIPA.
#57
Posted 15 September 2013 - 03:51 AM
are some of you guys not considering euro crystals to be crystal? i kind of lump it all together. anything cara i think of as a sort of crystal.
#58
Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:11 AM
I don't quite get the anti-crystal trend. i understand overuse is an issue and people's tastes will vary from wanting to use more/less but to go completely to none most of the time seems too far. on the regular i'd miss the body and flavor that crystal brings. it's one the things I enjoy about a lot of beers and it balances oh so nicely with lots of hops.
I don't get it either. I've made a lot APA's and have tweaked the recipe many different ways. The carapils I use helps a lot. I got the idea from a guy who was once a commercial brewer.
#59
Posted 15 September 2013 - 06:13 AM
I like a little more maillard flavor
Do you ever pull some wort and do a boil down?
#60
Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:18 AM
Do you ever pull some wort and do a boil down?
To me, that's a totally different flavor than you get from crystal malt.
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