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#21 BlKtRe

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 10:26 AM

Thinking about brewing this for MFJ. It will have about a 4 weeks from grain to glass. What are your thoughts on this beer for the general public?



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Posted 08 June 2014 - 01:07 PM

Thinking about brewing this for MFJ. It will have about a 4 weeks from grain to glass. What are your thoughts on this beer for the general public?

I had many try mine and everyone loved it. I think it would go over well.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:20 AM

Do you mind posting the IBU's for each hop addition? 



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:27 AM

Do you mind posting the IBU's for each hop addition? 

I will when I get home and access to my software.



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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:44 AM

I will when I get home and access to my software.

 

Thank you.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:55 AM

Do you mind posting the IBU's for each hop addition? 

90 Minute 13 IBU

15 Minute 14 IBU

10 Minute 19 IBU

My software does not calculate for whirlpool hops so I have no idea how much they add.  I would imagine they bump it up a bit but overall this beer was a smooth bitterness with a lot of flavor and aroma like you would expect form a late hopped beer.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:53 AM

90 Minute 13 IBU

15 Minute 14 IBU

10 Minute 19 IBU

My software does not calculate for whirlpool hops so I have no idea how much they add.  I would imagine they bump it up a bit but overall this beer was a smooth bitterness with a lot of flavor and aroma like you would expect form a late hopped beer.

Would depend much on the temperature of your whirlpool, no? Do you steep real hot or bring it down to 170-ish first?



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 05:59 AM

Would depend much on the temperature of your whirlpool, no? Do you steep real hot or bring it down to 170-ish first?

I am sure it does and it also depends on other system configurations.

 

My process is I will cool my wort to 180* and add my hops.  I think cover my kettle and whirlpool for 15 minutes.  After 15 minutes I close the valve to stop the whirlpool and let the kettle settle for 15 minutes.  After the hops see a total time hot of 30 minutes I cool with a cfc and I am cooled out  in under 5 mintues for a 6g batch and maybe 10-15 minutes for a 11g batch.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:20 AM

Yeah I forget the exact temperature but its around 170-180F or so under which I think the IBU contribution is basically negligible. But you probably already knew that. Carry on.



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 06:47 AM

Yeah I forget the exact temperature but its around 170-180F or so under which I think the IBU contribution is basically negligible. But you probably already knew that. Carry on.

I did but it is good to add to the discussion.  The hops added to the boil will have a slightly higher total IBU contribution though because they see hot wort for longer but I agree it is minimal. 



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Posted 10 June 2014 - 08:56 AM

I never consider flame out additions to contribute any ibu's.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 09:56 AM

I never consider flame out additions to contribute any ibu's.

In my system I will see an increase if I have a whirlpool rest. I know each system is different.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:47 AM

Man, I am loving the Mosaic.  I have a Citra/Mosaic Pale Ale that just came to carb and it is awesome.  It is mildly bittered with NB and generously late hopped.  I attribute so much of the flavor to the Mosaic.  I am trying hard to come up with my own flavor definition and I keep coming back to mild citrus with a lot of ripe melon (to me). Am I nuts?



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 06:59 AM

Next time around I'd curtail my caramel additions but they were on hand and I needed to do a little late spring cleaning.  However, the color of this batch is dark cantaloupe which sorta ties into the flavor........ Citra/Mosaic Pale Ale Boil Size: 7.50 gal Post Boil Volume: 6.22 gal Batch Size (fermenter): 5.02 gal Bottling Volume: 4.65 gal Estimated OG: 1.053 SG Estimated Color: 11.7 SRM Estimated IBU: 66.8 IBUs Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 % Est Mash Efficiency: 71.5 % Boil Time: 60 Minutes Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name 5 lbs Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) 3 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 1 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) 1 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) 4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) 4.0 oz Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) 3.5 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) 0.80 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min 0.30 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min 0.30 oz Mosaic [11.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min 0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min 0.50 oz Mosaic [11.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min 1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min 1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min 1.0 pkg San Diego Super High Gravity Ale (White Labs #WLP090 Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 07:49 AM

Next time around I'd curtail my caramel additions

 

I find that with these new, tropical flavor hops, I have cut way back on my caramel.  The hops themselves lend a sweetness to the beer.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 07:57 AM

at this point I can absolutely see what you are saying....



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:02 AM

Yea, that is a lot of Cara type malts in there. 

 

I'm more into the Cara Munich's. I keep 20,40,60, and on occasion 80 around. 



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:04 AM

Would you say the caramunichs are drier?  How would you describe them?



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:06 AM

I have become a huge fan of caravienne lately and have been using it in my hoppy beers.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:14 AM

Would you say the caramunichs are drier?  How would you describe them?

 

I didn't say drier. I just commented on the %. The reason I like the Cara Munich's better is because I think they taste more Caramel the higher you go in L* vs Crystals which come off more sweet to me.  I prefer the flavor profile better. 

 

With that said I wish I had your beer in my hand right now! 




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