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#21 Poptop

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:25 AM

CWG, did you just pitch the packet or did you cream the yeast? 1 packet? More?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:46 AM

One packet added to a cup of water at about a half hour before pitching. I use a sanitized pyrex measuring cup and bottled water, some sanitized foil over the top. It's what I usually do for dry yeast. 



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:52 AM

Sounds good. I've always pitched right from packet. Keep us posted on this batch. I am particularly interested in how the grapefruit plays into the mix. I might do something similar with my packet of Belle. A citrus summer Saison :)

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:57 AM

I used to pitch from the pack. You should get more viable yeast by re-hydrating. After the grapefruit, I'm planning a blueberry lemon saison. I like that combination of flavors so I'm going to try it in a beer. My main problem is that I prefer Saison to be bottle conditioned so I'll have lots of bottling to do.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:17 AM

I have to agree on bottling. The effervescence / high carbonation is so fitting. Do you try and clarify the batch? Secondary? Other?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:37 AM

I used to pitch from the pack. You should get more viable yeast by re-hydrating.

 

 

While that's true, I've never found it to make a difference in the finished beer.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:59 AM

I have to agree on bottling. The effervescence / high carbonation is so fitting. Do you try and clarify the batch? Secondary? Other?

I usually use time and cold crashing to clarify, gelatin if needed. Then I bottle. High gravity and long aged beers get a quarter pack of s-05 at bottling.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:02 AM

I usually use time and cold crashing to clarify, gelatin if needed. Then I bottle. High gravity and long aged beers get a quarter pack of s-05 at bottling.

would you use t-58 for a big belgian at bottling or stick with o5?



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:03 AM

While that's true, I've never found it to make a difference in the finished beer.

Triangle tests? Even in higher gravity beers?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:07 AM

would you use t-58 for a big belgian at bottling or stick with o5?

I use 05 for all my bottling needs. I don't want to create any flavors, just clean carbonation.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:09 AM

I use 05 for all my bottling needs. I don't want to create any flavors, just clean carbonation.

I supposed as much, just checking



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

Fellas, do you still add XX sugar to the beer prior to bottling (along with the 1/4 packet 05?) No worry about making bombs?

Edited by Steppedonapoptop, 28 July 2014 - 10:09 AM.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:16 AM

Fellas, do you still add XX sugar to the beer prior to bottling (along with the 1/4 packet 05?) No worry about making bombs?

it's gotta eat something



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:16 AM

Fellas, do you still add XX sugar to the beer prior to bottling (along with the 1/4 packet 05? No worry about making bombs?

I measure the needed sugar for desired carbonation, dissolve it in boiled water and add to bottling bucket. If initial fermentation is complete, there shouldn't be any bombs.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:29 AM

Thanks. I appreciate your patience with my questions. Be sure to keep us posted with what this batch brings please. Mike

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:39 AM

would you use t-58 for a big belgian at bottling or stick with o5?

 

Doesn't really matter.  There's so little fermentation going on in the bottle that flavor isn't an issue.  However, I once heard someone from Boulevard say that they used T-58 for bottling becasue it flocced well and formed a tight cake on the bottom of the bottle.

Triangle tests? Even in higher gravity beers?

 

Yep, triangle.  OGs up to mid-upper 70s.

Fellas, do you still add XX sugar to the beer prior to bottling (along with the 1/4 packet 05?) No worry about making bombs?

 

Assuming the beer is fully attenuated before you bottle it, all the yeast will eat is the priming.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:39 AM

Doesn't really matter.  There's so little fermentation going on in the bottle that flavor isn't an issue.  However, I once heard someone from Boulevard say that they used T-58 for bottling becasue it flocced well and formed a tight cake on the bottom of the bottle.

 

 

I only asked because that's apparently what it is designed/bred for



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:40 AM

I only asked because that's apparently what it is designed/bred for

 

Really?  Didn't know that.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:06 AM

Really?  Didn't know that.

I have heard it repeated for years, maybe it stems from the description of it being "ideal for bottle conditioning" on their site



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:59 PM

I took a potato peeler to 5 pounds of grapefruit then juiced them. Beer and grapefruit was racked into a keg with a sure screen. I'll do a week on the grapefruit then sample.


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