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[SchwanzBrewer]

I've been brewing for 6 years and I've never made IIPA. I've brewed IPA's, pale ales, lager, alt, kolsch, belgians, stouts, porters, blondes, ambers, browns... many many many beers. It's not that I don't like IIPA, I actually love them. I just haven't really had the desire to brew one. Well, it was requested that I brew one for a party in September. So I agreed.

 

I have a pretty good IPA recipe and I thought I'd use it as a base to start.

 

Grains

 

70% Pale Ale

15% Munich 10L

6.5% C-77

2% Carapils

 

6.5% Cane sugar added after 3 days active fermentation.

 

OG (w/sugar) 1.082

 

Hops. Here's where I can do whatever. I have Citra, Amarillo, Simcoe, Centennial, Columbus, Cascade, Mt Hood, Apollo, Nugget, Saaz, Tett... bunch of german hops... Calypso, Galaxy, EKG, and probably some more that I can't remember.

 

I was thinking Apollo for bittering to about 60 IBU.

 

Then let hop fest begin!

 

Centennial & Cascade @ 20

Mt Hood @ 15

Amarillo @ 10

Citra & Columbus @ 5

All of the above @ 0

 

All of the above @ hop rocket into fermentor

 

Columbus & Centennials dry hop - 3 days

Citra & Amarillo dry hop - 3 days

 

Total IBU ~ 100

 

I think with all these hops and a lot of them are leaf, I might need to increase the size to 6 gallons of worth instead of 5.5

 

It's pretty busy, but I think it will be good. Plus it will help me get rid of some hops.

 

Cheers!

[Poptop]

Tubular dude

[johnpreuss]

not sure but I think I'd lose the crystal and the carapils.... you want this to dry out and let the hops shine.

[SchwanzBrewer]

not sure but I think I'd lose the crystal and the carapils.... you want this to dry out and let the hops shine.

 

Maybe the carapils. The regular IPA version dried out enough. It will be plenty dry. It's not much crystal either. It gives a nice balance to the beer.

[HVB]

Looks good.  I like the hop bill, I  would not have the Mt. Hood ( I would have used Simcoe instead) in there but that is just a personal preference.  I can not see th is having any issues drying out.  The grain bill is a touch higher on Munich than I would want for a double IPA but only one way to find out if it works!  I am guessing you will go with something neutral like 001 or 1056?

 

Enjoy the luplin rush!

[neddles]

I think this will be nice. More malty than some? Sure but maybe you'll like it that way. You didn't include the weight of the hops so make sure you add plenty!!!

 

A question for you guys with hop rockets/hopbacks. Do you find it brings something different than what you get tom the 165F whirlpool steep?

[positiveContact]

C-77?  that's an odd lovibond value

 

I have a hell of a time looking at recipes in terms of percentages and I'm too lazy to try to back out the actual weights for a 5 or 10 gallon batch.  Can you at least give me the weight of one of the grains so I can easily see how much the others are?

[neddles]

C-77?  that's an odd lovibond value

I think that's a Crisp malt. I used it in a Edmund Fitzgerald knockoff I made.

[HVB]

C-77?  that's an odd lovibond value

 

 

 

I am assuming it is Crisp 77 malt.  Seems to be very popular with commercial brewers too.

 

https://www.brewmast...rystal-malt-77l

 

ETA:  I need to hit post sooner

Edited by drez77, 20 August 2014 - 05:31 AM.

[positiveContact]

I am assuming it is Crisp 77 malt.  Seems to be very popular with commercial brewers too.

 

https://www.brewmast...rystal-malt-77l

 

ETA:  I need to hit post sooner

 

yeah - that answer was sooooo 30 seconds before your post.

[SchwanzBrewer]

C-77?  that's an odd lovibond value

 

I have a hell of a time looking at recipes in terms of percentages and I'm too lazy to try to back out the actual weights for a 5 or 10 gallon batch.  Can you at least give me the weight of one of the grains so I can easily see how much the others are?

 

The weights are relative to your efficiency on your system and batch size so they don't matter what mine would be. Do you use brewing software? Brewersfriend gives you the percentage of the grist for each fermentable. Also, I don't have my system up and running right now so I'm doing this on my friends system. I gave him the recipe and he's gonna give me the numbers for his system. Once I get those, I'll plug everything into brewers friend and figure out the weights for the hops and everything.

[positiveContact]

The weights are relative to your efficiency on your system and batch size so they don't matter what mine would be. Do you use brewing software? Brewersfriend gives you the percentage of the grist for each fermentable. Also, I don't have my system up and running right now so I'm doing this on my friends system. I gave him the recipe and he's gonna give me the numbers for his system. Once I get those, I'll plug everything into brewers friend and figure out the weights for the hops and everything.

 

my spreadsheet shows percentages but I input the grains as weight.  we've discussed this in the past but I disagree with adjusting things like crystals, roasted malt, etc. for efficiency.  I have yet to see any difinitive proof either way so I'm going with my gut.  I tweak the base grain(s) to get me there.

 

in the end the differences are minor though unless you have a really whacky efficiency.

Edited by TheGuv, 20 August 2014 - 08:33 AM.

[SchwanzBrewer]

I changed up the hop schedule on this one... I had a bunch of hops that needed using (still have more that need using). I need to brew some more 5 gallon batches.

 

Title: IIPA Bob's System

Author: Rich/Bob

 

Brew Method: All Grain

Style Name: Imperial IPA

Boil Time: 60 min

Batch Size: 7 gallons (fermentor volume)

Boil Size: 9.26 gallons

Boil Gravity: 1.064

Efficiency: 65% (brew house)

 

STATS:

Original Gravity: 1.085

Final Gravity: 1.021

ABV (standard): 8.36%

IBU (tinseth): 123.29

SRM (morey): 12.21

 

FERMENTABLES:

18 lb - United Kingdom - Pale 2-Row (76.6%)

3.5 lb - German - Dark Munich (14.9%)

1 lb - United Kingdom - Crystal 70L (4.3%)

1 lb - Cane Sugar (4.3%)

 

HOPS:

1.5 oz - Nugget, Type: Pellet, AA: 14.5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 51.97

0.5 oz - Apollo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 18, Use: Boil for 45 min, IBU: 17.95

0.5 oz - Columbus, Type: Pellet, AA: 16, Use: Boil for 25 min, IBU: 13.29

0.25 oz - Calypso, Type: Pellet, AA: 15.3, Use: Boil for 20 min, IBU: 5.53

0.25 oz - Nelson, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 20 min, IBU: 4.52

0.5 oz - Citra, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 14.8, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 7.98

0.5 oz - Centennial, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 11.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 6.2

0.5 oz - Cascade, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 8, Use: Boil for 10 min, IBU: 3.15

0.5 oz - Amarillo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 9.6, Use: Boil for 10 min, IBU: 3.78

0.5 oz - Amarillo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 9.6, Use: Boil for 5 min, IBU: 2.08

0.5 oz - citra, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 14.8, Use: Boil for 5 min, IBU: 3.2

0.5 oz - Calypso, Type: Pellet, AA: 15.3, Use: Boil for 5 min, IBU: 3.64

 

MASH GUIDELINES:

1) Infusion, Temp: 149 F, Time: 80 min, Amount: 7 gal

2) Sparge, Temp: 175 F, Time: 10 min, Amount: 5.65 qt

Starting Mash Thickness: 1.25 qt/lb

 

YEAST:

White Labs - Dry English Ale Yeast WLP007

Starter: No

Form: Liquid

Attenuation (avg): 75%

Flocculation: Med-High

Optimum Temp: 65 - 70 F

Fermentation Temp: 62 F

[SchwanzBrewer]

Ended up with a pile of hop sludge in the kettle. Almost 2 gallons of wasted wort that we couldn't get chilled. I boiled longer than 60 min. Wasn't needed. I ended up adding some water back in the end. 

 

Also, it was 95 degrees with a heat index of 109 in the garage. I was dehydrated by the time we were done and I ended up pounding water for a couple hours afterwards.

 

I really need to get a new small system set up. Gravity fed. Maybe one pump like my old system. I don't want to use my keggle anymore though. I'd like a flat bottom kettle.

[HVB]

Ended up with a pile of hop sludge in the kettle. Almost 2 gallons of wasted wort that we couldn't get chilled. I boiled longer than 60 min. Wasn't needed. I ended up adding some water back in the end. 

 

Also, it was 95 degrees with a heat index of 109 in the garage. I was dehydrated by the time we were done and I ended up pounding water for a couple hours afterwards.

 

I really need to get a new small system set up. Gravity fed. Maybe one pump like my old system. I don't want to use my keggle anymore though. I'd like a flat bottom kettle.

 

Do yo have access to 240v in your house?  Maybe a nice simple electric set up?

[SchwanzBrewer]

Do yo have access to 240v in your house?  Maybe a nice simple electric set up?

 

No 240V. I don't need no stinkin' electric! I just want a simple batch sparge system is all. I have most of the pieces, I just need to retrofit some stuff and do it.

[matt6150]

I ended up wasting about 2 gallons of wort as well with my brew yesterday, but had like twice the hops. Whirlpool works very well!

[HVB]

No 240V. I don't need no stinkin' electric! I just want a simple batch sparge system is all. I have most of the pieces, I just need to retrofit some stuff and do it.

I was just thinking of a way to stay in the house and brew to avoid the heat.

I ended up wasting about 2 gallons of wort as well with my brew yesterday, but had like twice the hops. Whirlpool works very well!

Are you using one of the SS hop "sacks"  if you are not have a look at them, they work nice.

[SchwanzBrewer]

I ended up wasting about 2 gallons of wort as well with my brew yesterday, but had like twice the hops. Whirlpool works very well!

 

Whirlpool has never worked well for me with a keggle. I had 6oz of hops in there and I'm gonna dry hop with another 2oz x 2 before this is kegged.

[HVB]

Whirlpool has never worked well for me with a keggle. I had 6oz of hops in there and I'm gonna dry hop with another 2oz x 2 before this is kegged.

Are you using a pump?

 

IMO that DH needs to be bigger but I am a hop head.