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#81 denny

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:48 AM

I meant zero setup effort!

 

But I have that now!

No sparge is an issue for me, what efficiency do you see with that? 55% or so?

 

I just did a couple no sparge batches of my Am. mild.  Efficiency in the upper 70s.

Why would absorption rate be lower? Do you mean qts/lb or something else? The grain should absorb the same volume of water per pound of grain assuming complete saturation no matter the mash ratio.

 

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:48 AM

But I have that now!

 

but I thought we were talking about someone who was starting over - like the OP of this thread ;)



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:49 AM

when you lift the bag up to let it drain the weight of the grain pulling down on the bag squeezes more liquid out of the grain than if it was just sitting in a mash tun - or so the story goes.  I haven't tested it out myself.

 

Sounds like a fairy tale...

That is my experience. 0.075qt/# is what I have experienced.

 

I'm too sleepy to do the math...how does .075 qt./lb. relate to .12 gal./lb.?



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:50 AM

Would this be a good chart to go by for extract expectation for no sparge? 

 

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:51 AM

there used to be some pretty good debates on squeezing the bag when doing extract with steeping grain batches.  I can't remember if it was ever determined if this was a bad thing to do.  If you get good results I guess it can't be that bad.

 

It's fine.  Many commercial breweries use mash presses.

How big of a mash tun? The cooler has always been the biggest expense here and I haven't seen big ones for that cheap.

 

70 qt. for 33.97.  Just bought 3 of them for that price locally.



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:51 AM

It's fine.  Many commercial breweries use mash presses.

 

how about pressing the hops?  can I press the hops?



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 11:52 AM

Not by me. I don't care how people create their wort. If the benefits aren't obvious or applicable to you then my beer is no worse off for it. 

 

Absolutely THIS^^^^



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:26 PM

I'm too sleepy to do the math...how does .075 qt./lb. relate to .12 gal./lb.?

 

Latter on you will see I corrected my quick post.  It is 0.075 gallons/pound.



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:36 PM

It's fine.  Many commercial breweries use mash presses.

 

70 qt. for 33.97.  Just bought 3 of them for that price locally.

Wow! Clearly I need to look harder before I buy another cooler.



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 04:14 PM

how about pressing the hops?  can I press the hops?

I sure as heck do. Greedy leaf hop bastards. I haven't noticed anything from it other than more wort. I dump my hops in a strainer and press with a sanitized 1qt pot

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 08:38 AM

I sure as heck do. Greedy leaf hop bastards. I haven't noticed anything from it other than more wort. I dump my hops in a strainer and press with a sanitized 1qt pot

 

Yep, same here.




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