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[HVB]

https://blogs.denver...g-errors/14208/

 

 

Yester announced Tuesday he is returning the silver medal he won at last month’s Festival of Barrel and Wood-Aged Beers in Chicago after discovering it went to a beer that did not meet category guidelines.

 

Trinity received a silver medal in the fest’s Wild/Brett category for Easy Swinger, a low-alcohol wild IPA brewed with Brettanomyces yeast and aged in French oak chardonnay barrels. The only problem: that was not the beer Trinity shipped. Yester said the brewery mistaken sent Swing Se Pliser, a beer based on the same IPA recipe but brewed only with Lactobacillus, without a hint of Brett.

 

 

I do not think I have had anything from Trinity but seems like a stand up thing to do.  Some others would have just let it go.

 

 

[djinkc]

Hopefully that was judged late in a big flight

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

I'd like to know who judged that beer. It was a fun comp to steward.

[mabrungard]

It sure sounds like the beer that was sent, met the essence of the category and it placed based on its merits. It doesn't matter what the actual beer was. The reliance on style definitions and criterion seem overblown here.

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

That's true. The beer was deemed second best of the bunch. Why make a big deal of it.

[BlKtRe]

That's great he did that. I've heard rumors the guy really isn't all that friendly. 

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

Returning it may have been great but sending it out to be a news story and calling out the contest, not so great.

[Deerslyr]

Returning it may have been great but sending it out to be a news story and calling out the contest, not so great.

Well, if he has a reputation as an "unfriendly guy" he probably solidified it with this:

 

 

[color=rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Georgia, Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;font-size:medium;]Yester wrote to festival organizers shortly after the medals were awarded to explain the problem, including owning up to the shipping error and offering to return the medal.[/color]

He also noted the problem of judges who cannot distinguish between Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus, saying it “will compromise the touted reputation of the fest.”

 

But he's probably savvy enough to know that in doing this, he's getting more press than he would have just by coming in 2nd.  

 

I'm not gonna cry a river for him that his "experiment" was a bust.

[djinkc]

"He also noted the problem of judges who cannot distinguish between Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus, saying it “will compromise the touted reputation of the fest.”

 

That's pretty much a well, duh.  Not really classy from someone that started the chain of events sending the wrong beer.

 

It would be interesting to taste the entry.

[Mynameisluka]

as jackwadded as it is, he seems to have a valid point.

[Deerslyr]

He does, but he's not doing the craft any favors by airing some dirty laundry... especially when it was his error that initially created the brown stain on the underwear in the first place. Not everything needs to be public.

[dmtaylor]

Yawn.  Press-hungry, absent-minded goofball.

[mabrungard]

[color=rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;]"[/color]He also noted the problem of judges who cannot distinguish between Brettanomyces and Lactobacillus, saying it “will compromise the touted reputation of the fest.”

 

Unfortunately, this guy actually thinks that the differing taste characteristics should have been plainly apparent to anyone tasting the beer. A judge does not typically state categorically that a flavor or perception is not present when the brewer has STATED that it was made that way. There are so many things that affect how a marriage of flavors are perceived on the palate. 

 

He is the only one to blame here. 

[neddles]

One Blewbie has firsthand experience with this guy. https://www.brews-br...eded/?p=1778502

[HVB]

One Blewbie has firsthand experience with this guy. https://www.brews-br...eded/?p=1778502

 

I thought this was out there.  I looked for it the other day and failed.

[BlKtRe]

One Blewbie has firsthand experience with this guy. https://www.brews-br...eded/?p=1778502

 

When Mtn stopped by my place a few months ago I got a first hand conversation about him. Earlier when I said I heard he is kinda unfriendly this is what I was referring too. Id forgotten Mtn posted this so I wasn't going to throw him under the bus. This story is very displeasing and makes me want to stop recommending Trinity as a place to stop to friends of mine. 

Edited by BlKtRe, 04 December 2014 - 08:39 AM.

[ChicagoWaterGuy]

Trinity take 2: https://gazette.com/...article/1542980

[BlKtRe]

Trinity take 2: https://gazette.com/...article/1542980

 

Jason is such a tool. To many other breweries out there making as good or better beer than he does that Id rather give my money too. 

[Deerslyr]

Apparently doesn't have an ounce of diplomacy in him, does he?

[neddles]

LOL. I've known people like this. They are highly delusional. 'people just don't understand his genius.'