Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Hey electric brewers what do you think of the boilcoil from blichmann?


  • Please log in to reply
32 replies to this topic

#1 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 04 January 2015 - 12:28 PM

https://blichmanneng...oducts/boilcoil

 

Does this seem like a good product? 10 gal batches with heating of 1.25 deg F/min. Not bad ramp time. $140 - $150. All you have to add is the controller and have the available power.

 

How does this compare to buying some water heater elements?



#2 positiveContact

positiveContact

    Anti-Brag Queen

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 68886 posts
  • LocationLimbo

Posted 04 January 2015 - 12:35 PM

https://blichmanneng...oducts/boilcoil

 

Does this seem like a good product? 10 gal batches with heating of 1.25 deg F/min. Not bad ramp time. $140 - $150. All you have to add is the controller and have the available power.

 

How does this compare to buying some water heater elements?

 

water heater elements are pretty damn cheap.  I know little about this but I have to think you could do something DIY for less than $50. 



#3 realbeerguy

realbeerguy

    Frequent Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1974 posts
  • LocationBluffton, SC

Posted 04 January 2015 - 12:55 PM

I think a 5500W/240v is faster than 1.25dF/min. Agree with above. Can DYI for a lot less.  You still need to drill your existing pot. 



#4 positiveContact

positiveContact

    Anti-Brag Queen

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 68886 posts
  • LocationLimbo

Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:12 PM

is the big thing about this setup that you don't need a 240V outlet?



#5 BlKtRe

BlKtRe

    Comptroller of le Shartes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 16511 posts
  • LocationThe Land of Oz

Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:16 PM

Sounds like a lot of money for a proprietary system and no way to control it without buying a proprietary controller. 

is the big thing about this setup that you don't need a 240V outlet?

 

10g on a 120v system. Dont expect much performance. 



#6 positiveContact

positiveContact

    Anti-Brag Queen

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 68886 posts
  • LocationLimbo

Posted 04 January 2015 - 01:20 PM

10g on a 120v system. Dont expect much performance. 

 

that's what my past research suggested.  I remember determining if I ever want to go electric I need a 240V outlet.



#7 matt6150

matt6150

    Moderately Accelerated Member

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 10549 posts
  • LocationMooresville, NC

Posted 04 January 2015 - 04:30 PM

You could definitely do something for cheaper and don't expect much from 120v. A 5500w element on 240v would perform way better and cost less.



#8 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 04 January 2015 - 05:53 PM

It has a nice design to it so it's easy to clean and remove the cord. We have 50A 240V on the porch already for plugging in the trailer I think.



#9 djinkc

djinkc

    Comptroller of Non-Defending Defenders of Inarticulate Twats

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 32138 posts
  • Locationout the backdoor

Posted 04 January 2015 - 05:57 PM

Every product I've seen from them is good.  And they charge for it.  For out of the box it's probably reasonable.  You will need some type of control too though.  

 

Me? I would rather DIY.  But that's not for everyone.  It's nice that there's an option out there.



#10 matt6150

matt6150

    Moderately Accelerated Member

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 10549 posts
  • LocationMooresville, NC

Posted 04 January 2015 - 06:10 PM

They also have the heating element that installs in the hoprocket that could be used for a RIMS.

#11 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 05 January 2015 - 08:21 AM

https://www.amazon.c... heater element

 

Would the one above be a good choice for an element assuming I have the power/voltage to do it?



#12 positiveContact

positiveContact

    Anti-Brag Queen

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 68886 posts
  • LocationLimbo

Posted 05 January 2015 - 08:27 AM

https://www.amazon.c... heater element

 

Would the one above be a good choice for an element assuming I have the power/voltage to do it?

 

according to the reviews - yes.



#13 HVB

HVB

    No Life

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 18066 posts

Posted 05 January 2015 - 08:31 AM

https://www.amazon.c... heater element

 

Would the one above be a good choice for an element assuming I have the power/voltage to do it?

I hear that one works okay :)

 

httpss://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u39r0ch7X-o/VKqJ7tJZciI/AAAAAAAAHMw/5PlVILBnbsI/w800-h450-no/first%2Brunnings.jpg



#14 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 05 January 2015 - 09:08 AM

If you wanted to put two of those elements in a kettle, would you have to have two separate circuits? 5500W/240V = 22.9A. If I had a 240V/50A breaker, split to two 30A GFI I should be ok, right?

 

What is the best resource for building the controller and making the kettle box connector?



#15 BlKtRe

BlKtRe

    Comptroller of le Shartes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 16511 posts
  • LocationThe Land of Oz

Posted 05 January 2015 - 10:19 AM

If you want to go all stainless check out Bobby elements at brewhardware.com

#16 HVB

HVB

    No Life

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 18066 posts

Posted 06 January 2015 - 11:40 AM

If you wanted to put two of those elements in a kettle, would you have to have two separate circuits? 5500W/240V = 22.9A. If I had a 240V/50A breaker, split to two 30A GFI I should be ok, right?

 

What is the best resource for building the controller and making the kettle box connector?

what size kettle will you be using to need two elements?  I am guessing larger than 20g.



#17 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 06 January 2015 - 11:52 AM

what size kettle will you be using to need two elements?  I am guessing larger than 20g.

 

;)



#18 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 06 January 2015 - 11:54 AM

I read a little of the electric brewery site and it says that typically your municipality will only let you run at 80% capacity on a 50A circuit. So two 5500W might not be allowable per code.



#19 HVB

HVB

    No Life

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 18066 posts

Posted 06 January 2015 - 12:02 PM

I read a little of the electric brewery site and it says that typically your municipality will only let you run at 80% capacity on a 50A circuit. So two 5500W might not be allowable per code.

You can also look at the NESC 210.20



#20 SchwanzBrewer

SchwanzBrewer

    Grand Duke of Inappropriate Announcements

  • Patron
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 34299 posts
  • LocationKnee deep in business plans

Posted 06 January 2015 - 12:06 PM

?




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users