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[Poptop]

Hi All, quick question here; is 24 hours enough time to make a 2l starter? Will I get enough action in that period of time?

[neddles]

Probably depends on the age of the yeast you put in it. In general I would want to give it a longer period finish and to flocculate out before I decanted. If this was a smaller starter (~500ml) , which I don't usually make, then I would probably just pitch the whole thing without decanting. So… it depends.

[positiveContact]

Probably depends on the age of the yeast you put in it. In general I would want to give it a longer period finish and to flocculate out before I decanted. If this was a smaller starter (~500ml) , which I don't usually make, then I would probably just pitch the whole thing without decanting. So… it depends.

 

what mr. nettles said.  I like to decant as much of the starter beer as possible.

[Poptop]

I was afraid of that. I have a back up plan to use 3 pouches. I just didn't want to splurge all of them. Sometimes time sucks.

[positiveContact]

how about one small starter + 1 additional pouch?  not sure how many cells you need.

[Poptop]

This seems feasible. I need close to 300. Making a special beer for my 50th batch; BDSA.

[HVB]

What is the volume and gravity of the beer and the yeast date?

[Poptop]

Gravity is estimated at 91. Yeast date TBD b/c it is en route from NB. Delivery estimated at Friday. Hopeful brew day Sunday. I can always put this batch off but I'm keeping the faith. I ordered 3 sacks of 1762 based on the tight time frame.

[Poptop]

Volume is 5.5 in the fermenter.

[matt6150]

I would postpone the brewday and do it right but that's just me. Instead make a smaller easier recipe with items on hand this weekend instead.

[positiveContact]

I would postpone the brewday and do it right but that's just me. Instead make a smaller easier recipe with items on hand this weekend instead.

 

he can pitch a proper amount if he uses all three packs.  he's just trying to decide if he wants to spend the money or not.

[Poptop]

Matt and Evil correct on both accounts. I have the itch to pitch but also an inherent stubborn streak about the cost. A smaller different batch is on my mind but the sentiment of this one being my 50th is leaning me toward making a very decadent BDSA.

[positiveContact]

Matt and Evil correct on both accounts. I have the itch to pitch but also an inherent stubborn streak about the cost. A smaller different batch is on my mind but the sentiment of this one being my 50th is leaning me toward making a very decadent BDSA.

 

it's just a few more bucks.  it's a special occasion.  do whatever you need to do to get the right amount of yeast in there.  if you have to pitch all 3 packs so be it.

[Poptop]

So let it be written!!!

[matt6150]

OK I missed the 3 packs part. Then yeah I think I would do that.

[SchwanzBrewer]

24 hours is usually enough for the krausen to fall for my starters when they are on a stir plate. Then they spend 6-12 hours chilling and clearing for decanting.

 

Probably depends on the age of the yeast you put in it. In general I would want to give it a longer period finish and to flocculate out before I decanted. If this was a smaller starter (~500ml) , which I don't usually make, then I would probably just pitch the whole thing without decanting. So… it depends.

 

Most yeasts won't floc out when they are on a stir plate. At least I've never seen one do it. I just look for the high krausen line and if the wort/foam level is below that then you know it's probably done.

[neddles]

24 hours is usually enough for the krausen to fall for my starters when they are on a stir plate. Then they spend 6-12 hours chilling and clearing for decanting.Most yeasts won't floc out when they are on a stir plate. At least I've never seen one do it. I just look for the high krausen line and if the wort/foam level is below that then you know it's probably done.

Sorry if I was unclear. Of course they wont floc and settle on the stir plate. He would have to let it ferment and then floc and settle aided by a good chill as suggested. All of this taking time he doesnt have in order to get this done. Sounds like the multi-pack litch is the way to go.

[SchwanzBrewer]

Sorry if I was unclear. Of course they wont floc and settle on the stir plate. He would have to let it ferment and then floc and settle aided by a good chill as suggested. All of this taking time he doesnt have in order to get this done. Sounds like the multi-pack litch is the way to go.

 

Agreed, been there. I hate buying more than one pack of yeast. I really wish I could brew often enough to harvest.

[Poptop]

Agreed, been there. I hate buying more than one pack of yeast. I really wish I could brew often enough to harvest.

That's sorta my feeling. But for this batch, I had to over purchase b/c I have the time this weekend to brew. Especially after Denny and Schwanz made it very clear that their yeast preference for this particular "style" is 1762

Edited by Steppedonapoptop, 21 January 2015 - 10:53 AM.

[SchwanzBrewer]

That's sorta my feeling. But for this batch, I had to over purchase b/c I have the time this weekend to brew. Especially after Denny and Schwanz made it very clear that their yeast preference for this particular "style" is 1762

 

Mainly Denny. I find that following his advice yields pretty damn good results. I've only made a couple BDSA's but the better one was with 1762. In fact I'm probably going to brew it next weekend. I want something different to bring to this charity event I'm doing, so it will be in the line up.